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John Edwards & Barack Obama went straight for the jugular in going
after Hillary. They attacked the vote on calling the Iranian Revolutionary Council a terrorist organization. Saying it will give this president the excuse he needs to
go to war with Iran.

Hillary’s inconsistent answers were exposed on social security and at the end
of the debate she agreed with New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer's controversial plan to give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants but then a minute later started backtracking.
Now Bill Clinton was a master at being evasive but her facial expressions and
demeanor showed she is no Bill Clinton. Will this debate change the numbers?
I don’t know.

I think what was really exposed last night was status quo positions of the front runner.
How can my party complain about the secrecy in the Bush Administration
if Hillary does not turn over all her documents? I understand it gives the other
candidates an unfair advantage, because she will be the only candidate required to
do this. But if this lack of transparency is going to stop, someone has to take
the lead. The other is lobbyist money; Hillary has out raised all the candidates of
both parties in lobbyist money from Wall Street, defense department, and insurance
and drug companies. Some might see it as success but really it business as usual.
Somehow we must have a leader to take us to public financing because these lobbyist
have too much influence.

I am getting suspicious as to why the Bush Administration is getting their way on the
latest NSA spying bill. Did the telecommunication lobbyist have something to do
with it? I don’t know.

This may sound like a slam on Hillary but it really isn’t, it just exposes some of her
weakness in a primary. Great leaders learn form mistakes and they don’t
usually repeat them. Constructive criticism will only make a person stronger.
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Mike - > Politcs Plus -> "No way,no how,no John McCain"
"No way,no how,no John McCain"

That's what Hillary Clinton said to 20,000 enthusiastic Democrats last night. It's going to make a hot selling bumper sticker.  Hillary Clinton gave her best speech ever.  She set up her best line saying, by telling the crowd that John McCain did not believe that women deserve equal pay for the equal work.  She went on to give my favorite line "with an agenda like that., it makes sense that George Bush and John McCain will be together next week in the Twin Cities because these days there’re  awful hard to tell apart.”  And Pat Buchanan said she would not tear down John McCain because they were Senate buddies, and she will be running for president in the year 2012.  She proved them wrong.  A class act, because I have never heard a second-place finisher endorsed the winner in such a fashion.

The McCain camp fired off their talking points which every surrogate used line by line.  They said Hillary never mentioned Barack Obama was ready to be commander-in-chief.  It left out the fact that she lowered John McCain status, to way below Obama’s.  She emphasized their similar views on the issues that matter to the Hillary supporters.

The Democratic convention is getting little testy, I guess the pundits are having too much together time.  First there was the CNN flare up, between John King and Paul Begala. This started because Paul did not want anyone to say he was active in trying to stir up the Hillary Clinton delegation.  Then David Shuster and Joe Scarborough got into it over Iraq wanting our troops to leave on a timetable.  David Shuster said “your party, Joe” and it took off from there.  Shortly afterwards Joe Scarborough and David Shuster hugged....I left out the Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews  jabs, and the Keith Olbermann Chris Matthews taking pot shots at Howard Wolfson of  Fox for being a lap dog. 

The clip I provided,sorta reminds me of this forum ,without the hugs.

Here are some other good lines from the convention.

Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa., told the convention crowd that McCain "calls himself a maverick, but he votes with George Bush 90 percent of the time. That's not a maverick, that's a sidekick."

Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland used a baseball analogy about job losses. Bush "came into office on third base, and then he stole second," he said. "And John McCain cheered him every step of the way."

http://ap.google.com/articl...

Tonight it's Bill Clinton and Joe Biden’s turn.  I'm pretty sure Joe Biden will take off the gloves, and go after John McCain, but Bill Clinton is a different story.  Bill Clinton claims he has not written a speech yet, so the Obama camp will not get a good look see before he goes on stage.  I'm pretty sure Bill Clinton will give a great speech tonight, because he is a very competitive man, and he will want to place the bar very high for Barack Obama Thursday night.

A worthwhile clip.

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.c...

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posted by Mike on Aug 27, 2008 at 04:08 PM
If they only knew what General Petraes is saying....No officer of his will say "We are winning" or that the surge worked ,because he gives the Sunni Awaking the reason for the surge having it's sucess...As Obama said BTW...The right only likes like thinking veterans ,because they will vilify John Kerry ,Murtha, or Max Cleland....I saw McCain using the POW card on Leno,and a retired general has jumped him on for that.
posted by VietnamVet on Aug 27, 2008 at 03:58 PM

I noticed we were attacked during the night.  Why do they hate veterans?  Is Bush going to protect me?

BTW, I understand McCain will give his acceptance speech in front of a backdrop of the Hanoi Hilton and his house(s).

posted by Mike on Aug 27, 2008 at 03:53 PM

Lol...I wish the Dem's had your zingers,they would make great ads.

You ever notice we get attacked while we are sleeping? I login in the morning type in "Mike" and find myself being insulted during the night while I was away...lol.. Whats  the old saying "if they are attacking me,then it means they are leaving others alone"... If they had some facts once in a while, maybe I could learn something or debate an issue... it starts off with all political parties are bad ;then they write a laundry list of why the Democrats suck... Socialists, Communists, etc. and the Republicans are patriotic, family values, baseball , apple pie, and Chevrolet......lol...  I especially like the one line they all seem to repeat, "I am not prejudice, I would vote for Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Walter Williams or Alan keyes "....(1) that narrows it down to  black conservatives who tickles their ears (2) It is  irrelevant since they are not running

That might be my civic duty..lol

posted by VietnamVet on Aug 27, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Interesting talking point that has been repeated says that Obama is not "ready to lead".  Is that why McCain couldn't beat Bush in 2000?  Bush was ready??
posted by Mike on Aug 27, 2008 at 12:43 PM

So true, it is hard to reign in Bill Clinton...lol

I see the GOP talking points are mocking the stage setting for Obama Thursday night 's speech,as some kind of Greek temple... The 2008 Virginia GOP had a similar setting...lol ...Fun and games.

In order to keep everyone on message, the GOP has played their hand in advance....

posted by pat on Aug 27, 2008 at 11:57 AM
I could not for the life of me figure out how Hillary was going to reel in her "we're mad as hell and we're not gonna take it anymore" group, but she seems to have done it. She is one amazing woman. Now, tonight, we get Bill whom I adore. I just hope that his speech doesn't last like 2 1/2 hours or something like that. I know what he is supposed to talk about, but I'll bet he talks about what he WANTS to talk about. I can't wait!
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