Freethinker, all that article proves is that Hitler made a speech saying he admired the JESUITS. Gee, who didn't admire the Jesuits back then?  But the Jesuits aren't the Vatican. Especially now, as the Jesuits had to be reigned in by JPII and Benedict.

  AND the article goes on with assumptions made 30 years later by people who make judgements based on their own whims.

The Gestapo's own report on Pope Pius XII's 1942 Christmas sermon to the world, gives a truer picture of Nazi-Vatican relaions: "In a manner never known before... The Pope has repudiated the National Socialist New European Order... It is true, the Pope does not refer to the National Socialists in Germany by name, but his speech is one long attack on everthing we stand for.... Here he is clearly speaking on behalf of the Jews."  quoted from the magazine, Inside the Vatican, June 1997, p. 12

Also, from Das Reich, the official organ of the Third Reich, "Pius XI was a half-Jew, for his much was a Dutch Jewess; but Cardinal Pacelli  (Pope Pius XII)is a full Jew.  "Pius XII and the Holocaust", Sursum Corda, Spring 1998

So since when did Hitler and the Third Reich have ties with the "Jews" and their mouthpieces in the Vatican?  I think you realize that trying to paint Hitler as a Catholic and especially a Catholic-lover is not logical, looking at his actions and the words of the Nazi Party.

Yes, I went to that link, and I don't quite know what to make of it. 

Uh, yea, the guy got upset that I asked him about Obama's support of the Infant Liability Act. Then he goes skitzo on me!

Oh well, that's part of the internet "community."

maryann,

 Saw the thing on the boomerobama blog. Guess I did not see your first post. Must have upset the poor thing. I don't think it is hard to do with one of the close minded on here.

Did you go look at the militaryreligion thing Freethinker put up? I did, that's about all I can say.

Hello Riverboat,

This is the idea of Benedict XVI, and I am just exploring it from my point of view. Remember his Regensburg speech????

This was his main point.   It makes so much SENSE to me, that I wanted to write on it and see if anyone cared to discuss it.

As for the title, my muse breathed it into my ear. He favors historic, religious, and some current event topics. He doesn't visit me too often, but decided to stop in during the inspiring trip of the Pope.

Hello Freethinker.

Communism is officially atheistic. Marx, one of the founding fathers of communism, called religion "the opiate of the masses."

Are all communists atheists?  I think to the degree that communism has tried to wipe out religion in the heart of man, one can say most communists are atheists, and any that are "believers" don't dare expose that belief.

Are all atheists communists? Nope. 

The point is that when man gives human rights to the state- as it does in atheistic communism, the state is quite cold, calculating, utilitarian, and often mirrors a dictator's state of mind. Stalin was the one I chose to use- his form of government tried to eliminate religion from the country, and did so with despotic means.

BTW, it's a myth that Hitler was a practicing Catholic. He WAS a Catholic, but left the Church in his early adulthood, as Church teaching did not gel with his ideology.  Catholics who are "good" Catholics don't refuse children the right to pray in school and try to erase all vestiges of organized religion as the Nazi regime under Hitler did.

As for Evangelicals, as long as they use their faith tempered with reason, they are a GOOD force to be reckoned with- feeding the poor, housing the homeless, supporting the life of the unborn, and speaking out for those who are marginalized.

Sorry it took me so long to reply.

Thanks for your thoughts.

I think they are something to worry about. But then perhaps you are the one with the blinders. www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org   This site has some interesting stuff about evangelicals in our country! I hardly think they are something to not worry about.

Mary Ann,

I saw the way I spelled and put some of the words in originally and went back and changed them to make more sense. Didn't know if you noticed or not.

Many call themselves good Christians too. But if you pay attention to what they do they are just covering theirselves for the lie.

Being Christian is just as much what you do as what you say.

Free thinker, you might want to take off the blinders expand your reseach more, Evangalicals, which I am not, are one of the least thngs to worry about here.

And Hitler had ties with the Vatican too! In fact, he considered himself a "good catholic".  And he did have a lot of people killed.  Stalin was just plain power hungry and crazy. It did not have anything to do with him being an atheist. Your title makes it like atheist and communist are one in the same. I'm a little more worred about Evangelical Extremist in this country myself!

Thanks Sandwichh for those references. This type of history/current events has always interested me, and I'll be sure to check them out.

Ah yes, Stalin. He who killed millions more than Hitler ever thought of. But some don't think communist are that bad anymore.

Good that you bring this out for people to see again.

But the militant extremist Islamist have long standing ties to the Nazis and Hitler. It is well documented.

http://www.obsessionthemovi...   http://www.obsessionthemovi...

 I have both and would allow you to watch them if you would like MayAnn and have not. I have lent them out before. Real eye openers.

Also might want to check out this guys website of you who do not know about him. http://www.shoebat.com/

I believe the more people know who these  people really are the better we can deal with them.