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"the dark is generous. its first gift is concealment: our true faces lie in the dark beneath our skins, our true hearts remain shadowed deeper still. but the greatest concealment lies not in protecting our secrect truths, but in hiding from us the truths of others. the dark protects us from what we dare not know. it's second gift is comforting illusion: the ease of gentle dreams in nights embrace, the beauty that imagination brings to what would repel in day's harsh light. but the greatest of its comforts is the illusion that the dark is temporary: that every night brings a new day. because it is day that is temporary. day is the illusion. its third gift is the light itself: as days are defined by the nights that divide them, as stars are defined by the infinite black through which they wheel, the dark embraces the light and brings it forth from the center of its own self. with each victory of the light, it is the dark that wins."
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rg201508 - > Thought provoking -> Living in sin
Living in sin

I read onewhoshappy's post "To hell in a handbasket"and thought to give a more detailed response, in the form of a blog.  It is said by many Christians that we live in a immoral and sinful world. onewhoshappy listed a bunch of things that are wrong with society and I'm just gonna respond to them one by one.

We have a problem with gay marriage: haven't we been discussing this for the past week? What people do behind closed doors is their business and their's alone, regardless of how wrong the bible says it is.

Couples are living together, and they're not married: And your point in this is...? I dunno about you, but I'd like to date and get to know a girl before I decide to marry her. Besides, their business, not yours.

Children are being born out of wedlock: eh, other then it being a tax problem, I dont really care.

Alcohol abuse is worse: People have the right to their own choices, if they wanna drink themselfs to death, then so be it.

Abortion is more acceptable: Now see, there's something I wont contest. Because I believe, if you can make it, then you take care of it.

People are not going to church: look, I work 80 hours a week, to support myself and to help support my parents.  I despise the idea of getting up at obscene hour in the morning, getting dressed, going to a building where I have to socialize with a bunch people who are just to happy in the morning, and then sitting in a chair and listen to someone tell me how I should run MY life. It gets a little annoying, even more so in the morning. I get up early in the morning for very few things, and this surely isnt one of them.

Well that should do it, as always I look forward to feedback.

 

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posted by thewaywardwind on Oct 20, 2008 at 09:11 AM

borrealous...What is it with this "a gift from GOD" business?  I thought female humans got pregnant the same way female dogs, cats, horses, and elephants got pregnant.  If a baby really is a "gift" from God, why would he give such a precious gift to crack addicted hookers who will give birth to crack addicted babies?  Why would such a gift go to a fourteen-year-old who is still a child herself and not able to care for one of her own?    If it was a gift from an omnicient and omnipotent God, wouldn't you think he'd give such a gift to those who not only want it but have the ability to care for it?  The answer is that it isn't a "gift from God" but, rather the union of sperm and egg that is responsible for the pregnancy. 

 

 

posted by rg201508 on Oct 18, 2008 at 02:14 PM

well, such great feedback. borrealous, since you're rebutting me the most, ill deem you leader of the group. ill rebut you in red :).

We have a problem with gay marriage: haven't we been discussing this for the past week? What people do behind closed doors is their business and their's alone, regardless of how wrong the bible says it is.

Hiding the sin of homosexuality behind their closed doors does not make it acceptable. This analogy is like saying, as long as the Child molester hides it behind his closed doors, It is not our business.

I just love how you can compare child molestation to homosexuality. the difference here is that, in child molestation: child molestation is wrong in that an adult is forcing the child to have sex with them. in homosexuality both partners have the choice. plus one is illegal and the other isnt.

Couples are living together, and they're not married: And your point in this is...? I dunno about you, but I'd like to date and get to know a girl before I decide to marry her. Besides, their business, not yours.

Dating a girl and getting to know her is possible without "shacking up". It has been a proven method much longer than this recent method (the last 40-60 years) of shacking up. And all one has to do is look at the results. Marriages 40-60 years ago were solid and had a success rate much much higher than todays success rates.

so... your only defense is going to be the sanctiy of marriage? the thing about divorce is that it's sprung from the husband and wife having little fights, because neither were aware of each other's living habbits. little fights lead to big fights and big fights lead to either divorce or murder. take your pick.

Children are being born out of wedlock: eh, other then it being a tax problem, I don't really care.

This is a sad answer coming from you. Since your life philosophy of "as long as it feels good, it's ok" was born around the 1960's, The morals of our people have fallen to horrible levels like you present here in your blog. Children have grown up either without a father or a mother, both in some cases.(If they were allowed to be born at all.) And each new generation of these children have grown up with a bolder anger and an inner sense that they were cheated, and are "owed" everything. This makes for a growing population of society that is a selfish and disturbed segment.

no comment.

Alcohol abuse is worse: People have the right to their own choices, if they wanna drink themselves to death, then so be it.

While you are correct that people make their choices, it is again sad to see your un-willingness to help people who have made a poor self choice. If you and I were climbing a mountain together, and You slipped, I would do whatever I could to help you re-gain your footing. I guess I could only hope I didn't slip. ?

the difference between mountain climbing and drinking one's self to death is that one is a destructive habbit and the other's a constructive habbit. out of one death is sprung out of stupidity and out of the other death is sprung out of accident. if you slipped then of course id try my best to help you.

Abortion is more acceptable: Now see, there's something I wont contest. Because I believe, if you can make it, then you take care of it.

Here I only wish you would understand that the "it" you refer to is a human life. A gift from GOD. But I must be content that you are at least against killing babies.

no comment other then until you know if it's a boy or girl, its classified as an it.

People are not going to church: look, I work 80 hours a week, to support myself and to help support my parents.  I despise the idea of getting up at obscene hour in the morning, getting dressed, going to a building where I have to socialize with a bunch people who are just to happy in the morning, and then sitting in a chair and listen to someone tell me how I should run MY life. It gets a little annoying, even more so in the morning. I get up early in the morning for very few things, and this surely isn't one of them.

First I must confess that I too need to get back to church. So rather than be a hypocrite here, I will just say, that I hope one day you realize that "Your Life" was bought and paid for by our LORD and Savior Jesus. I hope we all come to realize this before it is too late.

no further comments at this time.

Well that should do it, as always I look forward to feedback.

I hope you take the time to digest the things I have said, rather than a knee-jerk response. It is easy for us to just react, rather than try to understand first.

i had the time to ponder over what you said and in some instances you made pretty good points, ones that i cannot contest and the others i still dont agree with.

I said a prayer for us all.

posted by coolgranny on Oct 18, 2008 at 11:48 AM
I will only add that a church fellowship is a blessing from God, and the guy on stage is telling us how to live according to God's word. He is there to remind us that when we slip up (sin) we are welcomed back into God's fellowship the minute we confess our sins to Him. It is a very comforting relationship for me, and it still holds " when two or more are gathered in my name." If you and your family worship together, God honors it.
posted by borrealous on Oct 18, 2008 at 11:30 AM

As I read your blog, the one Key thing I picked up on, is the emphasis of me.

If everyone in the world only cared about themselves, as it is fast becoming, this world would be too dangerous to live in.

The attitude you propose of people should be able to do whatever they want as long as they keep it hidden behind closed doors is also very dangerous.

I will rebut your answers in bold orange.


We have a problem with gay marriage: haven't we been discussing this for the past week? What people do behind closed doors is their business and their's alone, regardless of how wrong the bible says it is.

Hiding the sin of homosexuality behind their closed doors does not make it acceptable. This analogy is like saying, as long as the Child molester hides it behind his closed doors, It is not our business.

Couples are living together, and they're not married: And your point in this is...? I dunno about you, but I'd like to date and get to know a girl before I decide to marry her. Besides, their business, not yours.

Dating a girl and getting to know her is possible without "shacking up". It has been a proven method much longer than this recent method (the last 40-60 years) of shacking up. And all one has to do is look at the results. Marriages 40-60 years ago were solid and had a success rate much much higher than todays success rates.

Children are being born out of wedlock: eh, other then it being a tax problem, I don't really care.

This is a sad answer coming from you. Since your life philosophy of "as long as it feels good, it's ok" was born around the 1960's, The morals of our people have fallen to horrible levels like you present here in your blog. Children have grown up either without a father or a mother, both in some cases.(If they were allowed to be born at all.) And each new generation of these children have grown up with a bolder anger and an inner sense that they were cheated, and are "owed" everything. This makes for a growing population of society that is a selfish and disturbed segment.

Alcohol abuse is worse: People have the right to their own choices, if they wanna drink themselves to death, then so be it.

While you are correct that people make their choices, it is again sad to see your un-willingness to help people who have made a poor self choice. If you and I were climbing a mountain together, and You slipped, I would do whatever I could to help you re-gain your footing. I guess I could only hope I didn't slip. ?

Abortion is more acceptable: Now see, there's something I wont contest. Because I believe, if you can make it, then you take care of it.

Here I only wish you would understand that the "it" you refer to is a human life. A gift from GOD. But I must be content that you are at least against killing babies.

People are not going to church: look, I work 80 hours a week, to support myself and to help support my parents.  I despise the idea of getting up at obscene hour in the morning, getting dressed, going to a building where I have to socialize with a bunch people who are just to happy in the morning, and then sitting in a chair and listen to someone tell me how I should run MY life. It gets a little annoying, even more so in the morning. I get up early in the morning for very few things, and this surely isn't one of them.

First I must confess that I too need to get back to church. So rather than be a hypocrite here, I will just say, that I hope one day you realize that "Your Life" was bought and paid for by our LORD and Savior Jesus. I hope we all come to realize this before it is too late.

Well that should do it, as always I look forward to feedback.

I hope you take the time to digest the things I have said, rather than a knee-jerk response. It is easy for us to just react, rather than try to understand first.

I said a prayer for us all.

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