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With dove season right around the corner, what methods do you dove busters have for keeping your selves and your dogs cooled off? I knew a guy over in coonie country who said his dog caught a heat stroke. My first reaction was to ask, "What did the dog use for bait?" There's a lot of "my truck CAUGHT A flat", "my leg caught a cramp", etc. over there. Okay, back to my question about your dog.
Why do you or why don't you believe in angels? Anyone have a story about an angel encounter? Do any of you remember the recitation by Jim Reeves named OLD TIGE? Do you believe angels can appear as animals?
With all the stink about cops using excessive speed chasing traffic offenders and causing fatal wrecks to innocent drivers in the process, my question is stated. I'm not advocating the practice be haulted, but am asking your opinion if such speeds are justified? Why or why not?
Aren't lives being endangered during these chases?
DRIVERS TALKING ON CELL PHONES are being blamed for as many car wrecks as drinking drivers. CJ suggested asking your opinions about drivers on cell phones going so slow they hold up everyone behind them. Is this a problem? Is it dangerous? What should be done about it?
While ranting about one of those hoax emails,Rusty addressed one lady as MISS WILMA. Evidently it was her daughter who climbed all over me for being so disrespectful and condesending and chauvinist for using that form of address. Come to find out she holds some high and mighty post at UT Austin. All my life I've heard the terms Miss Patsy or Mr. Bob used soley as a means of respect. There were a few opinions about the gender preference of my venom spewing person. Even female magazine columnists blame such political correctness demands on the "Liberated women" crowd. What do you folks say?
Old Rusty must really be gettin' rusty, he couldn't get anyone stirred up enough to comment this week. A week or so back a reader suggested we stir up the HARRY POTTER debate. It got a few comments. Any other ideas?
BILLYJS sent us this. Thanks, Billy. Rusty,
I just heard about and visited a very cool operation. These folks find a way to send A/C units to our soldiers in Iraq. They also furnish goody packages and from what I read on their web site packages for the soldiers to give away to the Iraqi people. If you're interested the web site is... http://www.operationac.com I thought you might want to post a blog abouit it. Some reader may want to help. If not the web site has a lot of good pictures and even a video of a "near miss" from an IED. It seems to be a worthy cause. For the war or against the war we should support our troops." RUSTY HERE: Folks, this is quite an interesting web site. You might enjoy all the facts listed. To support our troops and to learn more click http://www.operationac.com/... target='_blank'>HERE
Got an email where an old gal in a restaurant made a nasty remark after hearing a six year old boy include a plea for ice cream while saying a premeal blessing. Stories like that make me wonder just how many old men die in self-defense in order to get away from a wife like that?
The loon sent me some pictures of a flathead catfish that tried to swallow a kids basketball. It got lodged in its mouth and the fish couldn't submerge because the ball kept it floating. For copies of the pix hit me at the CONTACT RUSTY button under the bio.
SCOTT EDWARD POWELL, 57, of Perrysville, Ohio was one of the scout leaders killed when a tent pole contacted an overhead powerline. That just goes to show, no matter how many people there are around, someone needs to be paying attention to what's going on, especially around power lines. We never know if we'll draw another breath from right now. A relative said this about Powell: "Last Wednesday, he was talking about some other project he was going to take on," Rentfrow said. When a relative commented he might be taking on too much, he answered, '"I've got a lot more 'yeses' ... I've got plenty of time." He died Monday, less than 6 days from when he said, "I've got plenty of time." FOLKS, WE JUST NEVER KNOW. Read more http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id... target='_blank'>HERE
Are you as sick of receiving hoax and/or outdated emails as I am? You can stop the string of a particular URBAN LEGEND at your computer if you like. By consulting SNOPES.COM HERE OR HOAXBUSTERS.ORG HERE you can see if a given email is true and worth forwarding or is false and should be stopped. When I receive one which is either a hoax or outdated I usually copy the clarifying text and send it to REPLY ALL. We have over 125 people on our Internet prayer team and welcome any and all REAL, CURRENT prayer requests. One way to usually tell if a posting is real, it will have a date of the start of the need and a real contact addy or phone number in the body of the request. When I get one in July that says: "Last Saturday a boy scout in Chicago lost his left testicle when he fell off his snow sled" my first reaction is akin to "Where did he have any snow in Chicago in July?" This is no joke, I actually received such an email..The little red headed girl listed as PENNY BROWN from the carolinas who "was kidnapped two weeks ago" NEVER EXISTED. IT WAS A BOLD FACED LIE!!! I kept getting that one for over two years.If they list an email address and it never existed, or has been canceled, something is wrong. Which other sites can we check these things on? Thanks for any leads. Oh BTW Mars was close in AUGUST 2003, not next month.
WALTER WILLIAMS has my respect and admiration. In his Advocate column today"Reparations lobby is a costly sham" this black writer lays it on the line. If you feel guilty because you think someone of your ancestors had anything to do with slavery, Williams has crafted a certificate of amnesty and pardon just for you.Click http://www.gmu.edu/departme... target='_blank'>HERE to get yours. In my opinion, the reparation thing is a rip off for the old poor blacks who donate to these slick, money grubbing lawyers who have concocted this malarky in an effort to extort money from the U.S government. Now they're attacking companies and spineless CEOs are giving in to them. Someone help me if my history memory is clouded. Supposedly, it was Arab Muslims who enticed BLACK AFRICAN tribesmen to capture and sell out, rival tribe members, their own tribe members and in come cases even their own families to slave traders. Take the bullc**p all the way back to its origin before you start hollering about slavery. There are more slaves to dope, alcohol, illicet sex, and down right laziness in the U.S. right now than there ever were on the cotton plantations. Neither our generation nor the government owes anybody anything for this. If they wish to do anything usefull for the country, round up all those lawyers involved and ship them to Devil's Island. That's where they belong.
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to read the story of a guy who liberated 7,000 mink from mink farms. The "extortion" charges were dropped on a technicallity, "because he didn't really TAKE anything" from the owners. He STOLE their livelyhood!!!! That makes him a thief!!! The bleeding hearts like Mary Tyler Moore and Bob Barker who demonstrate against raising furbearers to make coats out of them are full of whatever you want to say they are. God created furbearers to clothe people with their skins. In some parts of the world, that's all some people have to protect them from the cold. What better than a God made animal covering which kept the animals warm? Granted, most people who wear furs are those with lots of money. God provided them the money, why not look nice? It's showing off some of God's beauty put here for our needs and enjoyment. That's like all those tree huggers who don't want the trees cut down for lumber or paper products. THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE GROWN FOR. I do agree that we should save some of the historic trees like some of the giant sequoias and redwood. It's better from a management standpoint to harvest and utilize the pfroducts rather than let trees fall down from old age. In the Targee National Forest in Wyoming,the do gooders successfully stopped logging because they didn't like clearcuts. That turned out to be stupid because overmature timber is susceptible to disease and insect damage. An infestation of mountain pine beetles broke out and wiped out tens of thousands of acres. Before salvage harvest operations could be spproved, wildfire wiped out everything for miles and miles. What did the idiots accomplish in the overall scope of things? They "won" a temporary "victory" and ruined nearly an entire forest in the process. Leave management of natural resources to those qualified, not the do gooders.
What's a fair thing to do to someone you catch dragging a snag line to find your trotlines? Those you catch running your lines? Besides calling them a bunch of lowlife, slimey, worthless, no good,sorry____________________s?
grey-beard loon was looking for THE OWL CRITIC. It's too long so lookhttp://www.geocities.com/Ca... target='_blank'>HERE
Driving from Ganado to Victoria on 59 takes me across the upper end of Lake Texana. The sight of those white catfish jugs north of the highway tears me up. My family is opposed to my being out in the boat by myself ever since the stroke. They're afraid clumsy old "grumpa" will fall out of the boat. They've been told, "There's nothing out there to eat me but alligators and big old gars. And they'd probably spit me out." MY thought is, "When I get the time and money to tag the boat and trailer...they'd better not throw away any more of my plastic jugs."
Good morning. got the nicest note, it read: "No new blogs? Hope everything is OK. Looking forward to your next
post. Thanks!" BILLY: Thanks for your concern. It's always nice to know our readers are missing us. My taking a three day advanced grantsmanship course has had my nose to the grindstone TUe-Thurs. Then, we've been having trouble staying "on-line" at our place. Hopefully, mama won't have to suffer through anymore of my tirades from frustration. This has really been a pain in the butt being kicked off line while trying to research for my child care paper.
In a letter to the ed this a.m. entitled, "Don't nominate moderate justice" a reader wrote, in part:
"The U.S. Senate recently expressed mea culpas for refusing to submit anti-lynching legislation requested by presidents during years of racially motivated murderous attacks against blacks and others. Blacks are still targeted. Black females of reproductive age comprise 13 percent of that population and account for 33 percent of surgical abortions. I wonder when in the future we will ask forgiveness of this generation for the holocaust of abortion. Some survivors (those born since Roe in 1973) are asking why they were spared when a third of their brothers and sisters were murdered." Before someone starts hollering "RASCIST", no group is singled out here. My comments are directed to all races and colors, not just those cited in the letter. My questions are this: #1. WHO will have to ask forgivess from WHOM and for WHAT? #2.WHO told them to get pregnant in the first place? #3 WHO told them to have abortions? #4. Where did the mentality come from that, regardless of whether or not you want kids, DON'T USE ANY BIRTH PREVENTION METHODS? The IDIOT who decreed that stupidity ought to have to support all these unwanted kids who've been hatched since that nonsence came out. When are people going to start thinking for themselves? They were supposedly "doing their own thinkin'" when they got pregnant. Maybe the bunch mandating no birth control should go around and tell everybody "KEEP YOUR PANTS ON!!!!"
How many of you had your folks cut your hair when you were a kid? Or your spouse cut it later on? My bedroom was so cold there'd be frost on the plaster walls in the winter time. My dad kept his haircutting tools in a brown paper sack in the top of my closet.
He'd have me sit on a red and chrome stepstool in our kitchen right by the cook stove. Did he ever try to warm up those all metal electric clippers before he stuck them to the side of my head? Never!!! He'd cuss because I flinched. Then he put them by a gas burner and when they were hot enough to suit HIM they were too hot for me. I'd flinch again. More cussing. Those clippers had a bad habit of making two different noises. The'd be cutting along going buzzzzz and all of a sudden they'd change their tune to a loud BRAAHHH. Dad'd cuss and bounce them off the floor (And I wasn't supposed to laugh???). Then he'd grab my head and rub my ears back in forth real hard a few times. He'd "position" my head, and not gently either. (You know, my memory just brought me a wiff of how my dad smelled when he was cutting my hair) If I moved again he'd cuss about cutting a "gotch" in my hair. My double cowlick didn't make the cutting any easier for him. People would kid me about putting a bowl over my head to cut my hair, a TOILET bowl. Someone tried to tell me why those clippers did funny things was because some three or four year old boy was caught cutting grass with them. Now, who would do something like that? About the time of my sophomore year in high school we started hunting with a local barber and that's where we both got our hair cuts. A few years later, I went home from school one weekend and asked, "Hey dad, would you cut my hair?" He looked at me, grabbed his wallet and pulled out a five. "Here, if you're that broke, go let Billy Joe cut it."
Walked out of the house this a.m. and noticed several tufts of short white hair on the ground next to our breezeway. Puzzled about what kind of a critter had been attacked and lost all that hair, it finally hit me. Duh. That's where mama snipped my locks yetereday evening. Who'd losing it? Anybody else who'll own up to getting that goofy?
ONE OF OUR READERS,Dragen Rider, suggested we ask: Is it evil, is it encouraging witchcraft? Or, is it good from the stand point of getting our kids away from the TV and video games and getting them to read? Some folks say, "It's just an entertaining book. Logical people will realize it's just a book, and it's not promoting anything except ROWLING is trying to get people to be tolerant of other people."
What do you say it is?
Do we have to post something nasty on here to get any replies?
Don't outdoor items hold any interest? What kind of outdoor things do you want to hear about? Have the kiddoes tell us about their fishing trips.
There was a little rusty brown ground snake under a chair on our breezeway today. After taking a few photos an attempt to tip the chair resulted in the snake rising like a cobra. He kept getting higher as the chair was raised. It was caught in a spider web. Not thinking at the time, my actions finally lifted it enough to free it. When I told my wife about it she asked, “Do you think a spider would have eaten it?” Not that I’m crazy about watching something suffer, it would have been interesting to see what would take place. Apparently there was a prolific hatch of those longlegged yellow and black garden spiders lately. Could one eat a 9-inch snake not half as big around as a lead pencil? You know, they could suck the juices out of it.
One time some kids brought a brood of baby snakes to our house. When they found the mama not moving very much they picked her up. She proceeded to make them “uncles” by delivering about ten babies right before their eyes. We took pictures and ran them with our next weekly outdoor column and got scalded for it by an irate reader. “How can you call yourself an animal lover and take a pictures like that?” I was just showing LIFE for crying out loud. I didn’t kill those little snakes. It’s funny what sets people off sometimes.
Is there anything coming out of the White House we can believe? It scares the devil out of me that the Bush administration is so lowlife they'll expose a CIA agent for henhouse (you know, that green & white stuff on the floor) reasons. You know what that green stuff in hen manure is don't you? Its hen manure too. Now if you want to say "chicken" instead of "hen" it's okay with me.
If they can pull that crap on a secret agent whose job is to secure sensitive & critical information for the good of the country, what could they do to an ordinary citizen for calling them what they are? I'd say exposing an agent amounts to treason and anyone a party to it commits treason too. What's the usual penalty for treason? It sure isn't firing from the White house staff. What Clinton and Monica did in his office was stupid but it sure wasn't a treasonous threat to national security. Now, it's the entire country getting the screwin'. If there's all so wise, why don't they bring our troops home and post them along the Rio Grand and along the Canadian border. How many ****** are entering the US via those routes? Oh, do you know how to tell when those guys reach puberty? They take the diapers off their bottoms and wrap them around their heads.
Are you aware of the prohibitions of operating motorized vehicles such as ATVs in fresh water stream beds. Several people were arrested for that. One dude tried to say he paid $10,000 for a fancy boat. When told about falsification of records penalties, he went back to the court house and changed the price to $126,000 and paid the correct sales tax. Probably kept him out of jail. More intersting things about how game wardens are helping folks enjoy the outdoors. Click http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us... target='_blank'>HERE
LUBBOCK, Texas — A largemouth bass landed June 10 on Lake Alan Henry by Kenny Schuette, 11, of Slaton, southwest of Lubbock has been verified as a new junior state record by the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department.
Kenny’s bass weighed in at 13 pounds, 25.75 inches. He caught it on a rod and reel using live perch as bait, and after weighing it in, released it live, demonstrating the catch and release fishing ethic that has helped make Texas fishing some of the best in the nation. The fish earns Kenny a Big Fish Award, Catch and Release Award, Junior State Record for Public Water for largemouth bass and a Junior Water Body Record for Lake Alan Henry from the department.http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us... target='_blank'>HERE
In a recent It's News to Me column, Jim Bishop was defending the sharks. Some kooks were hollering, "Kill all the sharks" after a couple attacks on the east coast. Folks, when we invade their territory, regardless of the species of animal it is, we are fair game to them.
These people who move out into the country and holler because their house cats are being eaten by "those terrible coyotes" don't have a leg to stand on. Bozo Reed lives in North Dakota. He told me of a recent incident where four bikers were eating their lunch in the south unit of the Theodore Roosevelt National Park. The park is in an area well named the BADLANDS. While eating, the four were joined by a mountain lion which calmly walked up to within about ten feet of them and laid down, showing no sign of aggression. The startled men carefully gathered their belongings,backed out,hopped on their hogs and rode off. When they saw a park ranger they related their encounter. The ranger rounded up a hunter and told him to go kill the beautiful cat. Maybe there's more to the story that I heard but that sounds completely absurd to me. You go to the parks to see the wildlife. If you happen to see a cougar, you're among the fortunate few who do. Fortunately, the golden kitty had disappeared in time to save its hide.
O.C. put a lot of research into his column about the use of sunblock creams in todays Advocate. People on or partially in the water get a double whammy from the sun. the direct and the REFLECTED rays. A national bass fishing magazine bought my story on skin cancer but the brains who had the say so dropped the ball on the pictures to go with it. A dermatologist in New Mexico, who marketed a good SPF 15 back then(1985), sent me several gory slides of various skin cancers and surgeries. The folks at the magazine wouldn't use them because "they were too gross". That was the point, for crying out loud, to show folks what dangers they were subjecting themselves to. Malignant melanoma, in 1985, accounted for more than 10,000 deaths/year in the US.
Here's some date from the Skin Cancer Institute: More than a million people will be diagnosed with skin cancer this year. • One in five Americans will develop skin cancer in the course of their lifetime. • One person dies every hour from skin cancer, primarily melanoma. One of every to American men will develope some form of skin cancer. CancerHealthOnline has some informative quizzes you can take about skin cancers.
Maybe I shouldn't even suggest this since I'm personnaly not able to take anyone fishing right now, maybe later this fall. How many of you know of somebody who would benefit from getting out near the water for a part of a day? Maybe someone who used to fish but now has no transportation or anyone to go with? Who would be willing to take someone? Does anyone know of an organization who does such things for our senior citizens or other folks?
Hey, how long has it been since you took a kid fishing who wouldn't get a chance to go otherwise? How about taking an older or "disadvantaged" person fishing? You might spend more time helping them than having your own line in the water but you might have a much more rewarding trip out of the deal. Who knows, doing so might just give someone a new outlook on life. Have you ever been cooped up after an illness or accident? You might even gain a new friend.
HOW'S the flounder catching or gigging been lately? The only time our son and I tried to go flounder gigging we went with a guy who got off work at midnight. After driving an hour to get there we got stuck in the dry sand on the beach. By the time we got the truck out it was too late to use the lanterns.
Hey you saltwater splashers, what're your favorite methods for catching reds and speckled trout this time of year?
The rusty bucket hat is off to Liliana Plata. According to today's Advocate, page 9A lower left corner, Miss Plata paid $2,000.00 for a social security card on the black market. An undocumented Mexican immigrant who's lived in California since she was ten, bought the card in order to join the U.S.Air Force. Her exemplary military service in Iraq, and the fact that the card was not used to defraud anybody, were factors considered when all charges were dropped against her. The owner of the real card agreed to dropping the charges.
Also, a big hooray for the judicial folks who did the right thing in this case. Are ALL illegal aliens bad? Not according to this story.
OOPS, forgot about the closet mounted a/c units. When they have water running all over your hall carpet, you probably have a moss/mold clog in the condensate drain. There should be some way to gain access to pour some liguid chlorox bleach into the line to clear the moss/mold. I've even rigged a pvc wye or elbow with a riser into which the bleach can be poured. It may not be absolutely necessary to do it before and after the a/c season but a bit of bleach use sure beats trying to dry out your carpet or having to resand your hardwood floors.
Do you have a toilet which has mysteriously become sluggish to flush with no known reason? Sometimes Attic mounted a/c evaporators have their primary condensate drains routed into the vent pipe of a bathroom. Buildups of moss can eventually restrict the airflow enough to hinder the flushability of the toilet. If there is an access cap right near where the condensate line exits the evaporator that's good. Simply remeve the cap and pour a goodly quantity of liquid chlorox bleach down the line. I used nearly a gallon the last time.
Another way is to crawl up on your roof and pour the bleach down the vent pipe. Another trick of getting a sluggish stool to flush cleanly is to always have a container of water handy, say between a pint and a quart. When the water in the bowl starts to swirl, pour the water into the bowl. Sometimes this will help clear the bowl.
If you'd like to comment on the child care situation in Texas, good or bad, here's your chance. My current research paper assignment will probably deal mostly with the Victoria readership area but will reach out as far as possible for input,hopefully suggestions,on how the system could be improved. We'd like to hear of your experiences. While your comments in this forum are welcome, you can also email me at the contact link for Rusty Abe so we can have a way to contact you if you wish to be quoted,in person or anonymously.
Grey-Beard Loon's blog about the London & Spain bombings evoked this: The terms "London", "bombings", "on a plane back home" brought back memories of the right side of the cabin of the ilfated PanAm 747 (flight 103) named "Clipper of the Skies" shown on TV lying on the ground at Lockerbie, Scotland at Christmas time in 1988. My having flown on Clipper of the Skies on various trips between New York's JFK and the New Delhi airports was close enough. After Christmas 1986 our flight out of Delhi was delayed because the Russians wouldn't allow travel over their airspace that day. Our PanAm flight 66 was too late arriving in Frankfort, Germany for all the passengers scheduled to join us to JFK. So, PanAm used a plane from London to carry the Frankfort folks on to JFK. We were put on Flight 103. We never know...
Then, Pan Am in Frankfort didn't fulfill their promise to call Charlotte for me to tell her of the flight changes. She drove in heavy fog 100 miles each way that night to fetch me at Houston's Hobby airport. Worried sick because I failed to get off the plane, she started asking questions. The PanAm guy wouldn't tell her anything except, "Well, if his plane went down. You'd have heard about it by now." It's probably fortunate she didn't get the guy's name and she didn't tell me about his remark until after we left the airport the next day. By the time she called home to ask the kids if they'd heard anything I'd called from New York to tell them we'd been put up for the night and I'd be in tomorrow. From that time on, I made all my own calls. Should have in the first place.
When we lived in Louisiana our writing outdoor stories afforded us lots of opportunities we wouldn’t have had otherwise. This time of year reminds me that during the dark phases of the moon is when alligator surveys are conducted so the harvest limits can be set. Gator eyes glow red in a white light. The gator management teams we helped ran their surveys from airboats.
By traveling a preset course they recorded each pair of eyes they got close enough to to estimate the length of the gator. The distance in inches between the eyes and the nostrils equates the length of the critter in feet. So, a ten inch span from snoot holes to eye peepers classified the prehistoric lizard as a ten foot gator. Our son Courtney was about 14 the night we went gator countin’ with the LDWF team. It’s a good thing the propeller on that airboat had a cage around it. One four footer swam right up to the boat and Courtney said, “He looks like he’d like to get right in here with us. Hey! He IS getting in here!” When I looked around Court was climbing that prop cage. Once we got the critter subdued, Court came down and held the sharp-toothed lizard for photos. Later, when a mullet jumped into the boat that boy wasn’t the only one climbing the cage. We had classified gators estimated to being up to about 12 feet long at the most when we saw one big red eye in the distance. “Hey, look at the size of the eye on that one!” With an eye that big, how long do you think he is?” “I don’t know but I’ve never seen one with an eye that big. He must’ve lost the other one in a fight or something. We’ll just ease up there and try not to disturb him, there ain’t room for all three of us on that prop cage.” We won’t actually admit to being scared of “gitting’ too close” to that big boy but we will say that the hackles on the backs of our necks were raisin’ enough to push our ball caps up. Our approach was deliberate and s-l-o-w. Last fall in the Advocate there was a story about a couple guys from around here who shot a big gator in the head but it got away. The guy Court and I hunted gators with told us, “Just as soon as the gator’s eyes clear water we shoot ‘em right behind the head through their spine. There’s no use in shootin’ them in the hard old boney head, it’ll just bounce off. You sure don’t want one of those big $#@%&s coming back to life in the boat with you.” We thought that very thing was happening when an eight foot four incher in a 13-foot wooden boat with us started making gurgling noises in his throat right by my feet. Did anyone ever explain why the gator-hunting (trapping) season is usually set when it is in September (at least in the bayou state)? That’s historically when the mamas are guarding their nests. Theoretically, only immature females and bull gators are the only ones out cruising around at that time. They’re supposed to be the only ones harvested. The big one eyed one? “He” turned out to be a half submerged Coke can. |