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thewaywardwind - > Helpful government -> What does race have to do with being American?
What does race have to do with being American?

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I don't understand what being black has to do with honoring America.  Yeah, there are some things in our history that were horrible for black people, but we as a society have corrected those things and have tried to move on.  Slavery was a horrible sickness and the nation fought the bloodiest war in its history and ended slavery.  Racism cost many black lives and has been hard to overcome, but great progress has been and continues to be made.  The fact that a black man, who has been made a multi-millionaire by the basketball industry in this country to make comments such as he made is enough to make me wonder if he has some other agenda working.  He makes more for each game than most people make in a year and makes more in a season than most people will make in their entire lives.  If he isn't grateful to be living in America, then I would suggest that basketball fans not attend games in which he plays.  I don't want to be around someone who hates America and certainly don't want to support him with my dollar.

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posted by BIGJ on Sep 20, 2008 at 03:13 PM

Ragman, you are right he is stupid for his comments, but what I am trying to get thewaywardwind to understand is that some people are not being treated as they should; despite the wealth the Good Lord bless them.

 

Bighorn, Bite me, I will show you a cartoon alright.

posted by ragman on Sep 20, 2008 at 01:50 AM

This guy gets paid a lot of money to put a ball in a hole.  He is not a rocket scientist. He is in fact an ignorant twit.

However, the ignorant can learn. Hopefully he will learn that with all of it's faults--and there are many--this country has been mighty good to him and all of us. There is NO excuse for his behavior other than--he is an ignorant twit.

Boycot the team. I don't buy from sponsors of Rush.

posted by bighorn on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:18 PM

Rather than advocating hard jail time( or death) for those who we disagree (as a certain cartoon character does on here all the time), voting with our good old American dollar is the best strategy.

Don't like what a ball player says or stands for? Don't watch. Much less attend.

Don't like what someone on TV says? Turn the channel, or better yet, turn it off.

"You just don't understand" us! What a racist statement!

posted by justmyopinion31 on Sep 19, 2008 at 07:20 PM
Racism isn't born, folks, it's taught.  I have a four-year-old daughter.  You know what she hates?  Naps!  End of list. 
posted by BIGJ on Sep 19, 2008 at 06:30 PM

Thewaywardwind, you sure are speaking with two mouths here. Your last sentence says "Nobody wants to listen to your pity party", then what are you doing right now? Aren't you having a pity party yourself on this blog? Huh?

Second you said,  "I don't understand the rage of people who make millions of dollars in this nation and still refuse to honor it." Now you are pass me and NOT with me. I said that there are still anger and rage within a community, I never said anything about money. It is NOT about money. It has more to do about the treatment one revieve. That is the REAL ISSUE, NOT the amount of zeros in the bank account.

The Declaration of Independence doesn't mean crap when you as a group are not recieving the treatment. If you are being stop and profile because you are a member of a said group ( rich or poor).  How would you feel?

Getting over what? Way? I quess you mean by getting over it is for people to sit down and shut up.

posted by thewaywardwind on Sep 19, 2008 at 05:36 PM
Big...You're right.  I don't understand the rage of people who make millions of dollars in this nation and still refuse to honor it.  HE was never a slave and with his basketball talents, I seriously doubt he has been very deprived in his life.  Let's see, he has all the rights and privileges of all citizens and, with his money, there is little he can want that he can't have.  Just EXACTLY what does he have to be angry about????    As for as the others, I never heard of Bill Cunningham and I don't listen to Hannity.  I'm NOT a conservative white guy.  I'm a libertarian white guy, who believes in the depths of my heart that every citizen is equal under the law of the land and that all are entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as spelled out in the Declaration of Independence.  I'm quite sure the money he makes enables him to pursue a LOT of happiness.  In this country, everyone is free to make of yourself whatever you are willing to work for and to rise as high as ability and talent can take you.  If you are angry about anything, get over it.  Nobody wants to listen to your pity party.
posted by BIGJ on Sep 19, 2008 at 04:36 PM

Waywardwind, you lack understanding of some of the anger within a community. He ha to right to say what he want. But what it amazes me that you mention someone in the NBA, but you refuse to mention Bill Cunningham, Sean Hannity, and others for making racially charge comments. But opps nevermind..they are conseravtive white guys.

posted by Plum on Sep 19, 2008 at 01:03 PM
That's funny...I just posted this morning about people putting words in my mouth and projecting onto me their own thoughts, fears, and prejudices. It was a blog about reading comprehension...somehow people get these ideas from things we write that were never spoken of and run with them. Where is this coming from, I wonder?
posted by thewaywardwind on Sep 19, 2008 at 11:11 AM

Hold on there, Triangle.   I DID NOT suggest that he leave the country!  Go back and read the post this time.  I suggested that the people who buy tickets to the games in which he plays not buy them.  I would like to see Americans vote against this sort of anti-American attitude by withholding their money from the team that employs him.  His attitude of "I don't celebrate this (expletive deleted).  I'm black" flies in the face of all Americans.  There are tens of thousands of patriotic black men and women in the armed forces fighting in the middle east and risking (and, sadly, losing) their lives every day and for a damn sight less money than he makes so he can make millions of dollars while playing a childs game and at the same time securing his right to call the Star Spangled Banner &*$!.  Yeah, he has the First Amendment right to say exactly what he said, but I have the SAME First Amendment right to call him an ungrateful Sierra Oscar Bravo who doesn't appreciate living free in the greatest nation ever created on the planet.  You wrote about acting unpatriotic or disagreeing with other Americans like it is the same thing.  Disagreeing with public policy is one thing and is patriotic.  The Constitution guarantees every American the right to disagree with the government.  Being unpatriotic is dispicable and inexcuseable. 

posted by Triangle on Sep 19, 2008 at 10:46 AM

I am not familiar with the basketball player you're talking about, and I'm not going to offer my opinion on that situation, but I'm just wondering why you find it so easy to tell Americans to leave America when they act unpatriotic or disagree with other Americans.  America was built on certain freedoms, including freedom of speech, and I'm sick and tired of people getting on their high horses every time an American has something to say that bothers everybody else.  All American citizens are equal, including you.

It's nonsense to tell Americans that if they don't like it here they should leave -- just because their opinions are different from yours.  How would you like it if a fellow American disagreed with you and told you to leave the country?

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