http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238 With a recent slue of suicides the question is how can a city with so many churches and ministers, many of whom are qualified to provide counseling , as well as a community services agency's who do counseling SO MANY SLIP BY ? When I visit town I see churches with thousands of square feet and a phone book full of M.Div's and M.ED and Ralpha credentials at churches -- why so little counseling going on ... FOR FREE to those who need it ? With so very few mentally ill walking the streets why these few are not held to the bosoms of the many "Christians " in the Town ? ARGUMENT FOR BLOG : A] IF YOU ARE GAY AN DECIDE A CAT IS NOT ENOUGH IS IT BETTER TO BE WHO YOU ARE OR DIE ? B] IF YOU ARE IN A MISERABLE MARRIAGE IS IT BETTER TO DIVORCE OR TO DIE by suicide  ?   With a recent slue of suicides the question is how can a city with so many churches and ministers, many of whom are qualified to provide counseling , as well as a community services agency's who do counseling SO MANY SLIP BY ? When I visit town I see churches with thousands of square feet and a phone book full of M.Div's and M.ED and Ralpha credentials at churches -- why so little counseling going on ... FOR FREE to those who need it ? With so very few mentally ill walking the streets why these few are not held to the bosoms of the many "Christians " in the Town ? ARGUMENT FOR BLOG : A] IF YOU ARE GAY AN DECIDE A CAT IS NOT ENOUGH IS IT BETTER TO BE WHO YOU ARE OR DIE ? B] IF YOU ARE IN A MISERABLE MARRIAGE IS IT BETTER TO DIVORCE OR TO DIE by suicide  ?   en-us Themis, seriously to your knowledge, what is available as free counseling here in Victoria? Let me see what's on your list and I may can help you out. http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_31854 http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_31854 Themis, seriously to your knowledge, what is available as free counseling here in Victoria? Let me see what's on your list and I may can help you out. post away nun. maybe we can create a resource ? http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_31855 http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_31855 post away nun. maybe we can create a resource ? Themis, These churches are just waiting to help. But not intrude. The sad fact is the most depressed people are alone in a crowd, and somehow have lost the drive, self esteem, or whatever it is to allow them to reach out for help. You are not alone in this world. There are hundreds of thousands who have lived through what you are right now. Simply lose your foolish pride and say "can you help me?" The out poaring of love will knock you to your knees. And pray. Peace http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_31860 http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_31860 Themis, These churches are just waiting to help. But not intrude. The sad fact is the most depressed people are alone in a crowd, and somehow have lost the drive, self esteem, or whatever it is to allow them to reach out for help. You are not alone in this world. There are hundreds of thousands who have lived through what you are right now. Simply lose your foolish pride and say "can you help me?" The out poaring of love will knock you to your knees. And pray. Peace No cat. Straight. Can I still be suicidal? http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_31877 http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_31877 No cat. Straight. Can I still be suicidal? So Themis is it your assumption that Dr. Pigott killed himself also?  You mentioned in your comment it was by his own hand....then I put 2 + 2 together with the appearance of this blog.  You seem to know quite a bit about this town for being a visitor. http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_31886 http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_31886 So Themis is it your assumption that Dr. Pigott killed himself also?  You mentioned in your comment it was by his own hand....then I put 2 + 2 together with the appearance of this blog.  You seem to know quite a bit about this town for being a visitor. It is appalling that you, THEMIS, can say that Dr. Dale Pigott died at his own hand. You are one cruel  freak.  Unless you were there, how can you make this assumption? And now your unsubstantiated statement is going to make his boys and wife feel better? You are undoubtedly one cruel son of a  .........  gun! http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_31897 http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_31897 It is appalling that you, THEMIS, can say that Dr. Dale Pigott died at his own hand. You are one cruel  freak.  Unless you were there, how can you make this assumption? And now your unsubstantiated statement is going to make his boys and wife feel better? You are undoubtedly one cruel son of a  .........  gun! An Autopsy can have only a few outcomes homicide, suicide , or natural. Being angry with me will not change the fact that a young graduate full of hope died around Christmas , or an other young person jumped of a bridge. Suicide speaks not only to the individuals personnel pain but their perception of how their community will deal with them when they reach out for help. Will they be judged ? Will they be accepted for who and what they are ? Or persecuted ? Will they be told that their lack of hope is really a lack of faith and the pain they are experiencing is self inflicted ? Answer these questions ? Would you rather have these people in your mist and have to help them or or you quietly thankful they choose the path they did so not to be bothered by their needs?  http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_32130 http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/THEMIS/6238/#c_32130 An Autopsy can have only a few outcomes homicide, suicide , or natural. Being angry with me will not change the fact that a young graduate full of hope died around Christmas , or an other young person jumped of a bridge. Suicide speaks not only to the individuals personnel pain but their perception of how their community will deal with them when they reach out for help. Will they be judged ? Will they be accepted for who and what they are ? Or persecuted ? Will they be told that their lack of hope is really a lack of faith and the pain they are experiencing is self inflicted ? Answer these questions ? Would you rather have these people in your mist and have to help them or or you quietly thankful they choose the path they did so not to be bothered by their needs?