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First a little background, Chris Matthews does not like people that skirt the issue, he grill them. Chris first got the man to admit the goal was overturning Roe v Wade and it involves more than turning the issue back over to the states because right now it is an amendment in our constitution and not that many want Roe v Wade overturned.
Second point, he got the leader to admit that making it a state issue would not stop abortion but perhaps criminalizing abortion would. The leader flinched at that, and then he reluctantly agreed that doctors would have to be jailed in order to remove him from the equation. The leader did not give Chris an answer for the consequences of an unsafe abortion.
I think the video and transcript of that show is still on the MSNBC website. Perhaps the Pro-Life representative was not a good speaker, but he looked mighty uncomfortable when pressed for more answers.
Fact is ,the procedure is not illegal now ,and we do not know what the penalities...
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