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Rustyload: Yes, parents are ultimately responsible for teaching their children to behave - and in the case of delinquents, should be held legally responsible for their children's criminal behavior. The point I was making however is that the authorities are tasked with maintaining public order, and if the political will were there, or the voters made the politicians, to act on enforcement, effective punishments, and making punishments stick, the crime problem in this city could be helped significantly. You mentioned a terrible example of punishment gone awry, and I happen to know of another where a gang of juveniles did over 100000$ worth of theft and damage to property and based on their ages received 'slaps on the wrist' and there was no restitution to the business owners. Where's the justice in that?
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