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I think when people truly can't see that something is a mistake, then you have to work somewhat gently with them with facts and logic. That's my point of view, Roy. I used to be pro-pro death penalty. I'm able to move on that issue lately after being challenged by my husband. He simply asked me why I'm for the death penalty when I am against killing babies in the womb. Made me think. I know others have different methods, and they have some merit to them too. I have responded to tactics of humiliation, ridicule, and heavy-handedness, but I came away resenting the person and not seeing the issue clearly. My opinion.      
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