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Mon Nov 19, 2007 15:27:06 CST
HOLIDAY FOR A PERVERT!!!!!!!!!!! NOW WHAT PEACE OFFICERS
Mon Nov 19, 2007 08:42:52 CST
justiceforall, you do sit here and say you are not taking sides.It's clear that you have sympathy for a man that has been charged with multiple charges of aggravated sexual assault of a child.Then you come with these Bible Verses that only makes you look like the biggest hypocrite on Earth.Yes,I am for the victim,I'm stating that now and yes,I will be judged one day but remember so will you and if you think that God is gonna cut you anymore slack then the rest of us then you are wrong.Anyone that has 100% faith in a man with these types of charges has to be either a family member or someone that could care less about what may or what could happen to our children while this man is on the loose.Someone stated that "Ratcliff can watch there kids any day!"..Wow!!!As a parent I would never allow my kids around anyone that has been accused of these types of crimes rather they are found guilty or not at the end.I have to much love for my children to play Russian Rulet with there lives by letting this man watch my kids.justiceforall,Pray for your children because with a parent that thinks the way you do who knows what danger you will put them threw.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 23:39:06 CST
Strawberry: Tell the alleged victim "goodnight" for me! How do you like that?!! It's not so funny when it's thrown back in your face is it!!Maybe you shouldn't have jumped to conclusions because now you are trying to dodge the charges....how close are you and the victim?
Sun Nov 18, 2007 23:35:29 CST
Strawberry! Pay attention! I am not judging either one. Wait for both sides to be heard, then let the HATE flow. Why is that so hard for you to understand? You have so much HATRED for Ratcliff, that if someone wants to hear both sides, you jump to conclusions! If someone is defending Mike you have them going to bed together...how stupid can that be! Justice for all means hearing both sides, then giving the guilty the penalty they deserve. You think everybody who likes Ratcliff is going to bed with him--let's turn the tables and ask===Are you in bed with the alleged victim?
Sun Nov 18, 2007 23:24:45 CST
okay justiceforall, let me get this straight, you wrote "Judge not lest ye be judged" but you have judged the victim. Please don't be so hypocritical when quoting from the Bible. Your profile name DOES not fit you very well, I think I had written that to you before. You might need to learn some other verse.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 23:18:04 CST
Strawberry: Your GOD, my GOD--1 GOD. Judge not lest ye be judged.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 23:15:21 CST
justiceforall...yes, MY GOD is exactly who I was speaking of. I am not afraid, do you think Mike is? Repent your sins.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 23:14:19 CST
Strawberry: You don't know who I tell goodnight to. You are jumping to conclusions, just like you jump to believe the worst about Ratcliff. YOu do a lot of jumping to conclusions. Don't you ever get tired of jumping and just want to rest until both sides are heard?
Sun Nov 18, 2007 23:07:58 CST
To Strawberry: We will all get what we deserve 1 day. When we stand before God, he will judge us for our words, actions, etc. Sun Nov 18, 2007 23:04:44 CST
To Strawberry: Thanks for the prayers for Mike. Please pray for all involved and I will do the same. Your sarcastic remark to end your comments was not appreciated but was expected from you. Your hate, prejudice is showing no matter how hard you try to hide it!
Sun Nov 18, 2007 23:01:25 CST
to justiceforall...just because someone is found not guilty of a charge, does that mean that they aren't guilty? I guess you think O. J. Simpson had nothing to do with his wife's murder either?!? It's who you know sometimes & I think if he is found innocent there will be lots of people breathing a sigh of relief because they weren't found out about. And by the way, I don't HATE Ratcliff like you keep saying, I HATE his actions, he doesn't even deserve that much emotion from me!!! He will get what he deserves one day but not from me, I don't have that much power.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 22:53:23 CST
to justiceforall...1) he hasn't defeated any friend of mine
2) he hasn't put any of my friends in jail
3) none of my friends have been hired or fired by him
4) I have my own reasons to believe he is guilty, none of which I need or care to discuss with you
Sexual abuse violates God's law not just State laws-that's God's law-you're injuring another person. Why do people cover it up? Pretend like it didn't happen? It's a scar, it injures all of humanity. A coverup takes a little bit of innocence out of this world, not just for the victims, the direct victims, because we're all victims but not directly, but the people that are actually abused, those are the direct victims! This looks bad on the whole human race-abuse is a wound that will NEVER completely heal. Tell Mike goodnight for me!!!!! I'll keep him in my PRAYERS!!!!
Sun Nov 18, 2007 22:43:01 CST
To Strawberry and Betty: When Ratcliff is found innocent, are you going to apologize for your evil words and the HATE you try to drum up against him? Have you considered he might be innocent? Heaven help biased, prejudiced people who won't see both sides of a story!
Sun Nov 18, 2007 22:36:23 CST
A lot of people hate whoever gets into office...1.he defeated their friend,
2.he put a friend in jail
3.he wouldn't hire or fired their friend
4.put your own reasons here
People love to see a supposed "enemy" get their "comeuppance" and would encourage lies, distorted truths, etc. to gain it. Don't tell me it doesn't happen, read the comments here and HATE shows through clearly. HATE!! These people HATED Ratcliff before these charges were even filed. They thrive on HATE! It makes their world go around. The charges just let them express more HATE! They HATE Ratcliff, the charges are just a topping on the cake.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 22:18:35 CST
COPIED:“The poor guy has health problems.”
I have not been on here for a while, too busy. But this is what I have to say about the about statement....ha-ha!....My heart bleeds.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 21:54:49 CST
to justiceforall...hope you don't have sons! If Ratcliff is found guilty and is given probation during the entirety of the term of Community Supervision shall:1) Commit no offense against the laws of this State or of any other state or of the United States of America
2) Avoid association with persons who violate or have a reputation for violating the laws of this State or any other state or of the United States of America
3) Register under Chapter 62, Code of Criminal Procedure, Sex Offender Registration Program
4) Refrain from contact with any persons under the age of eighteen (18) unless under the supervision of a responsible adult
5) Submit to a polygraph and/or penile plethysmograph examination as directed by the Supervision Officer at the defendant's own expense
6) Defendant shall not go in, on, nor within 1000 feet of premises where children commonly gather, including public or private school campuses, day-care facilities, playgrounds, public or private youth centers, public and private swimming pools, video arcade facilities or other areas known to be frequented by persons who are 17 years of age or younger, to be measured by the shortest straight line between the location of the defendant and the property lines of the locations described herein.
7) You shall not have any individual or Internet Service Provider develope any content for or access content on the World Wide Web, Internet, Intranet, or any other online services which includes but is not limited to America Online, Prodigy, Compuserve, the Microsoft Network, and any bulletin board system, file transfer protocol site, or usenet discussion groups on any computer you own posses, or utilize for personal use unless specifically ordered by the Court.
These are just a few of the things he will have to abide by if found guilty. If he is found guilty, will you still let him babysit for you?
Sun Nov 18, 2007 21:41:30 CST
maybe he is getting his advice from paris hilton? didn't she play her trump card though once she was already in jail?!?!
Sun Nov 18, 2007 21:29:18 CST
justiceforAll...what would be the 'political' nature of those charges exactly?
Sun Nov 18, 2007 20:45:06 CST
The charges against Ratcliff are political and he will be found not guilty. He can babysit my kids anytime.The alleged victim was sent to prison for being a bad boy ..not for spitting on the sidewalk. He gets out and is arrested and is about to be sent back to the pen. He comes up with a story to make some Ratcliff-haters happy and in return is promised probation. It happens.
I'm back and firmly on the side of Mike Ratcliff. Leave his family out of this. They don't deserve the mud slinging that is being slung their way.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 19:41:04 CST
Although it is not admissible in a court of law, it would be interesting to know what magnitude it would read!
Sun Nov 18, 2007 18:48:11 CST
I will say it again. Ratcliff could clear this whole mess up by taking a simple lie detector test. I,m sure if he requested one it wouldnt be denied. Not saying he is guilty as charged, but i,m thinking that he would make the needle on the chart look like a 10.0 magnitude earthquake.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 18:39:33 CST
Well Tx Mom there are allot of us who do not worry about it at all. Mike can watch over my kids anytime.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 17:00:36 CST
SOUTHTEXAS--call the nurse and ask to have your blood pressure checked.... you are making stupid comments that have no relevance to this situatin... earlier post about male teachers was a waste of space.... there are plenty of male teachers! and their biggest concern is not being falsely accused... and of couse Ratcliff stirred up dust in the juvenile system... that's what predators do... they do something to gain the trust of the juveniles.. so when they violate them... they feel that no one will believe them becasue of who they are !! I can only assume no one in your family has ever had problems with the legal system or with abuse .. Thanks for you time though.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 16:33:55 CST
Well, I have to tell you I live in Cimarron and their is allot of others that feel very uncomfortable having this pervert in the neighbor hood.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 16:23:51 CST
He made it all up says Themis.Funny how some still believe in those whom have let us down.I guess Out of everyone the victim picked Ratcliff to lie on and chose to put his self down so low to tell someone he was forced to perform oral sex on another man and a sheriff at that.Themis thinks the victim did this in retaliation because he did 6 years in prison?That doesn't make any sense at all.How would a story like that get a man out of prison when he is already out and done serving his time? Or did he make this up when his probation was revoked? Why is it so hard to believe that a sheriff can't commit a crime like this? The victim finally came out and he had every right to.Maybe Ratcliff should vent ,hey,it may help him out with his sodium deficiency.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 15:39:28 CST
SOUTHTEXAS--You mean like the parents who trusted their children with the Priest?? or did you mean like the "People" who claimed that Mr. President would never with that lying woman Monica ?? I am confused now...
Sun Nov 18, 2007 15:35:00 CST
"Perjury"
Sun Nov 18, 2007 15:29:59 CST
Ratcliff lives with his very elderly and very ill father and has since his mother died. The people in Cimarron....at least the ones that know the Ratcliffs know there is no danger.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 15:19:23 CST
THEMIS -- I suspect that Ratcliff also made a deal with you and had you swear to secrecy as well... anyway...where are the people of Cimarron and why aren't they making a fuss about an "ALLEGED" sex offender in their neighborhood these days ??
Sun Nov 18, 2007 15:18:48 CST
"purgery" - is that any thing like purgatory?
Sun Nov 18, 2007 14:49:04 CST
Yes, he made it all up. This is a shake down to get a huge settlement from the county. The complainant's goal is to get revenge against the administration that put him in jail for those long but I would suspect not so lonely six years in prison. No matter he will be back in his cage for violation of his probation and for purgery. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 14:36:18 CST
southtexas - have you received your subpoena yet? Because you seem to "know" a lot about the evidence in this case. I'm sure Filley could use all of your "knowledge" for the defense.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 14:03:15 CST
If anyone's being set-up for failure it's the victim.Blah Blah Blah...If Ratcliff is found innocent it's only going to be for lack of evidence and then the victim will be looked at as a liar for coming out with something that has haunted him for all this time.The victim did 6 years in prison,so what,that doesn't make him any less of a victim then he already was.Keep putting the victim out there with his drug problems and so on.Have you ever thought of what has caused him to lead to this kind of life?Do you even know why he was in prison in the first place?Are you sure he wasn't set up by Ratcliff?..huh.. huh..Why don't we talk about how cruel Ratcliff was and how he mistreated inmates that were not of his race in the county jail?(oh let me guess it's OK because they are inmates so they deserve what they get)Ratcliff loved putting a man of another race in a cell full of Hispanics just to get his kicks off of seeing them jump on that one individual just because of there skin color.Maybe they should ask the inmates about the mistreatment that they got from him but of course not,he's 100% innocent and we do not need to bring anymore skeletons out of his "office".Do you really think that this victim made this all up? Do you not know how humiliated he is from his innocence being taken from him from our local sheriff that made him perform oral sex on him against his will?That's just Nasty!! I'm for the victim all the way.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 13:49:53 CST
You know, this town is sorely divided! Regardless of the outcome of this situation, there will always be 2 camps: Those who believe Ratcliff is guilty, no matter what a jury of his peers decides; and those who will believe that the whole incident is a set up by Ratcliff's political foes. For myself, I have not passed judgment on either the accuser nor the accused. I am only going to pray that my name doesn't come up for jury duty! As far as Ratcliff's hospitalization, guilty or innocent, this is a stressful situation for him and his family. I do not believe that this is a sympathy ploy by him to postpone the arraignment. If it were me in this situation, and I KNEW I was innocent, I'd be ready to prove it. I wouldn't want it postponed. But that is just me. Just because he has been accused, and the FBI, DPS, OAG cyber crimes unit found substantial reason for further investigation and the grand jury found cause to issue an indictment doesn't necessarily mean that he's guilty. Nor does it mean that he is immune from suffering from physical ailments.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 13:31:29 CST
Has anyone heard from Frank Henderson? Wonder what his thoughts could be? hmmmmmmmmm
Sun Nov 18, 2007 13:12:31 CST
Well I would like to say that sometimes investigations take a very long time. They do have computer records...of Mr. Ratcliff posing online as a FEMALE !!They will prove to you how long it will take when you see how long this trial will last.
Everyone makes mistakes.
I do not feel sorry for Mr. Ratcliff.
I made two mistakes.
One by voting for his re-election.
And two, by voting for Mr. Tyler!!
Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:44:08 CST
Snakebite...There is no way that there would be computer records from the allegations of 10 years past, nor DNA evidence....the computer surveillance and other investigation was done to try to catch Ratcliff in something current with the assumption that they if he did it then, then he was still doing it. Don't you think if the agencies involved would have found anything, that they would have presented them to the Grand Jury and there would have been more than just the three charges related to the 10 year old crime? Come on.....use your head! The whole thing reeks of a set-up!
Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:37:43 CST
...hospitalized for a sodium deficiency...lay off the salt..gzzz
Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:53:48 CST
everyone has skeletons in their closet.we are not in russa where everyone is guilty.here they have to prove your guilty.put yourself in the mans shoes
Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:41:02 CST
southtexas - It isn't unusual for investigations to take 14 months and longer. How would you know there aren't any eyewitnesses or computer records? Do you honestly think that type of evidence would be released and published? Do you ever remember any publication that layed out all of the evidence BEFORE a trial? That type of evidence is held closely to the chest away from the public for a reason. You really have no idea of what you're talking about.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:21:20 CST
wethepeople....No I do not think all the agencies mentioned took on the long 14 month investigation because they were "bored". Perhaps they were pressured to find something by individuals with great influence, power and money. Hmmmmmmmm.....now contemplate that scenario.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:16:51 CST
I not only have absolutely no faith in the justice system but this Ratcliff hospitalization to me sounds like a croc!I guarantee you they will stretch this out as looonnnngggggg as possible and this man...well I would not consider him a man, but anyway will probably get off while the victim will suffer even more. All he's doing is buying sympathy from Victorians to look better in court.
If he's really ill its because reality has set in and he will have to deal with his horrible mistakes...finally. At least the ones we KNOW about because I am sure he has more skeletons in his closet which will hopefully come out. Somehow I doubt it......
Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:48:09 CST
So what do the FBI, CyberCrime Unit, the Texas Department of Public Safety and the Victoria Police Department all have in common? Oh yah, Ratcliff! Wonder what evidence they may have found? Wonder why those forces would even bother to come to Victoria in the first place? Wonder why they put so many man hours into a fluff case? Wonder why the FBI, CyberCrime Unit and the TDPS all went on a little witch hunt - were they bored?
Wonder why the Victoria Police Department won't turn over evidence to the District Attorney's office? Wonder why the CyberCrime Unit took over the case from the Victoria Police Department - were they bored too? So many things to wonder about..... hmmmmsss!! I wonder....
Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:46:27 CST
This comment string seems to suggest that prejudice, bias, hate and disregard for justice and the Bill of Rights are alive and well in this potential jury pool. Is a fair trial possible in Victoria?
Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:32:12 CST
THEMIS, I hope you have had a sucessful career with the S.O.but how many bad arrests can you tell us about? How come when you would meet a deputy on the street or at local store you would get an attitude? Oh!I didnt answer your question,no I havent applied to the S.0. The S.O.& P.D.havent been right since 1972. And why I want Ratcliff case not to go away, because I have 5 grandsons.
Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:06:04 CST
Yes Ms. Strawberry I do believe that Mr. Ratcliff was indicted on just the victim's word. What other evidence could there have been....certainly no DNA after all this time....no Computer records, and no eye witnesses or we would have heard about them by now. However, the Grand Jury had a duty to indict on just the victims word. He was a minor at the time and in spite of his 6 years in prison since the "alleged" attack, the grand jury had the duty to send the case to trial to prove one way or the other, especially since it involved a high profile adult. All the law enforcement involved tried to gather more evidence than just the victim's word through their 14 month investigation prior to bringing the charges to the Grand Jury. Why did they investigate for 14 MONTHS!!!!! Can you even imagine what that cost the taxpayer? They investigated for 14 months because they could find no other evidence that Ratcliff was involved in sexual exploitation of minors and they kept hoping they would find something that would make a stronger case than the word of a boy who had been in jail the better part of the 10 years since the alleged attack took place. They tapped into Ratcliff's computer, most likely tapped his phone, and searched and questioned. Obviously they found nothing else or you can bet it would have been brought forth in the indictment also. They did find that he had worked in the juvenile detention center and started a lot of very positive programs for the youth there....something that had needed to be done for a long while and which no one else cared about even trying to do. Are you so naive Strawberry that the fleeting thought has not passed through your mind, "Why did this kid wait 10 years and then report this "incident" right when he had been arrested yet again...perhaps reaching a point where his punishments were bound to become more severe....and why, with his record is this kid out walking the street and making statements to the press?" I have said this before and I will say it again, I have friends in the school system that have retired because the difficult teenagers in their school have threatened them with reporting lies about them....lies that could ruin their career even they were eventually proven false. The number of men choosing the teaching profession has dropped by approximately 100% and one of the reasons is they are so afraid that some female student will accuse them of something in retaliation for a bad grade or discipline. They do not want to take the chance of putting themselves in that position by taking up teaching as a career. The sad thing about this is that our world is indeed full of sexual predators and the false accusations only make it more difficult on the ones who have been truly abused. Those individuals who choose to take the "witch-hunting" path as soon as any accusation is made will never be able to objectively question. That is unless, perhaps one of their family is falsely accused and they will be the first to scream, "Why can't they see?.....Why can't they at least listen to both sides?......Why can't they wait for the evidence and the trial?"
Sun Nov 18, 2007 09:02:48 CST
In a thirty year career in law enforcement, after thousands of arrest and hundreds of employees of course there will be a few folks who feel they got a raw deal. I guess those ex employees were fired for a lack of attention to their positions and see this extortion a chance at payback. Pathetic. My guess is the ones screaming the loudest applied to be deputy's and failed the psychological exam. Tell me were you denied or terminated from the S.O. ?
Sat Nov 17, 2007 22:40:56 CST
to get4real08...not gossip, facts. There's so many people involved in this, that's why there is so much talk about a coverup. Lots of nervous people, and don't try to tell me it could happen to someone in my family, maybe it has!!! When you read comments from people that have worked under Ratcliff you should begin to get a little insight into his power trip. Go back & read comment under Who Knew What When from Sundance from October 28th at 12:37. That's just one example of our fine Sheriff's reign (of terror). People in Victoria need to stop covering up for this man, what are they afraid of, skeletons in the dark? Do you really believe that if there wasn't some type of evidence other than the alleged victim's word that there would have been three indictments brought against Ratcliff?
Sat Nov 17, 2007 22:23:12 CST
Its not good this has all happened. Maybe this all happened for a reason to open everyone's eyes that people in this small town are not as perfect as they like to believe they are. Everyone makes mistakes,and everyone has someone in their family that has done something they have regreted at one point and time. I'm not justifying anyone posing online luring children by any means.And the thought of it makes me sik. Be more aware that this kind of thing does exist,and quit closing your eyes and thinking we live in a perfect world,because we do not. All the gossip isn't going to change anything here,until the matter is handled properly. Whether it happened, or it didn't happen it will be dealt with. You shouldn't think its so funny when people fall,and gossip about their family,or their problems. Something tragic could happen easily in your family one day. So don't pretend you know someone, until you really do. Its always better to observe and listen,before making rash judgements. If there was a 14 month investigation then the facts are already there. Do something else that is positive in your town to make it better. There are enough haters in this world already.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 22:15:41 CST
So Ratcliff isn't feeling too well? If he thinks he's feeling a "little under the weather" now wait until the rains really begin falling. Maybe when he comes to terms with what he has imposed on others (if he's guilty that is), he can begin to ask for forgiveness and his nerves will settle down. Too many years have passed & he thought he was free and clear. Did he really think that nothing would ever become of his wrongdoings? Oh yes, and he's such a religous man???!!!! Hope he's better before Tuesday. Oh yes, and this is just my opinion (sorry all you Ratcliff campers!) THE WAGONS ARE CIRCLING DOWNTOWN!! And to STOPMAKEING SENSE that doesn't even have the sense to spell right, you can threaten all you want, I guess Ratcliff trained you well!
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Sat Nov 17, 2007 19:15:38 CST
Thanks brother!!!
Sat Nov 17, 2007 18:49:31 CST
tstorm5,
Ya done good!
Sat Nov 17, 2007 18:42:20 CST
This is really a test to see if my picture appears in the post. I'm probably not as sharp with all of the wonderful things in the world of computers as the rest of you.As far as Ratcliff goes...I continue to recuse myself due to my thought that he is Guilty!!!
Sat Nov 17, 2007 18:11:07 CST
When I first read this article my gut reaction was "wonder if his appearance is going to be postponed" like he did this intentionally. Then my next gut reaction was "shame on me for thinking that!" So by my 1st reaction we can all assume I am not one of his "lackeys" that everyone is accused of being if they are not here wishing his long painful demise. For everyone screaming about him being out on PR bond citing the safety of the children, you can sleep well knowing his every movement is being documented by hospital staff & as long as he is there the children of Victoria are safe. As far as him faking goes I am very familiar with hospitals & their practices so if he were truley not ill he would be thrown out on the street. Hospitals are not in the business of being safe havens for crooks trying to get out of court. With the MRSA scare these days let me inform you the hospitals will d/c a patient when they have MRSA & not think twice about it, if they can no longer bill they no longer think it is their problem. It is my hope that Mr. Ratcliff has a full recovery so he & the victim can have their day in court. If something happens to Mr. Ratcliff before this all plays out then the victim will be revictimized (if Ratcliff is guilty). The community will forever be split & his reputation will be forever tarnished by those who thought he was being dishonest with his allegations. Mr. Ratcliff, regardless of what he has been charged with but not convicted of, is still one of us...a human being and being that Thanksgiving is upon us I would hope that if we cannot wish him well then say nothing at all. I know that if I had not stopped myself from my initial thought & he were to pass away I would forever feel horrible with myself.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 15:07:29 CST
southtexas wrote:" I would be very careful of strong statements since things that go around have a tendency to come around."
Karma you mean? Well maybe Ratcliff is getting a taste of his own medicine right now.ya think?
Anyone not just Ratcliff that's been charged with this type of crime is a danger to all children in my eyes until proven differently.Any parent in there right mind would only want to protect there children and keep them safe from sick minded people that have been accused of this type of crime. Remember,It's just My Opinion,it'll be ok..
Sat Nov 17, 2007 14:46:47 CST
so true but why hide.iam not ashamed to tell pll how i feel and who iam
Sat Nov 17, 2007 14:36:19 CST
Justmyopinion: Your postings and the fact that you actually state you believe people are guilty until proven innocent speaks for itself. I just hope and pray that you or someone you love is never falsely accused of anything; or for that matter, never righteously accused of anything....no need for any type of trial according to you....just throw you in jail and toss the key. I would be very careful of strong statements since things that go around have a tendency to come around. There may come a day when you might have to walk in the very same shoes of those you condemn.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 14:29:38 CST
southtexas,My junior high mentality comes out in me when people like you feel sorry for a man that has been charged with 3 counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child.Since southtexas works in the medical field I assume that she/he may know what kind of illness's Ratcliff has and is using that to her/his advantage with this article.What he's in there for I could care less so I'll let you win on that one.Ratcliff may have a full recovery but the victim will never be healed.Have you Ever thought of that?
The law says innocent until proven guilty but I say guilty until proven innocent and like I've stated before if Ratcliff is found innocent I will still have doubts due to the "special privileges" that he's gotten from the beginning. For example, a PR Bond on 3 counts,come on.
That's just like me saying,"Hey Ratcliff,you can be around my kids all you want but after you are found guilty you must stay away." As a Mother I would just be setting my kids up for failure so I stand with what I feel and I'm sticking to it.Guilty until proven innocent.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 14:19:48 CST
If Thomas Paine could publish Common Sense anonymously and help spark the American Revolution why can't I post here anonymously?
Sat Nov 17, 2007 14:18:50 CST
what good will that do? will that send him back to jail? And out on a real bond? I doubt it.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 14:07:24 CST
the best place for ppl to have their say is at city counsel meetings not here hiding behind the computers
Sat Nov 17, 2007 14:04:57 CST
Well this is my opinion! ppl get scared when they hear the word Diabetic. This is a disease that can be controlled. I am sure their are many diabetics in Victoria and Rat cliff seems to be getting extra sympathy for having it. Hell, how many diabetic are incarcerated at the county Jail. Rat cliff get over yourself. you did the crime now you have to pay for what you did.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 13:45:46 CST
HEY TEXAS MOM,IF THEY WERE ONLY AS SMART AS YOU.
Rank1 Causes of death All persons Causes of death Male Causes of death Female
All causes 2,448,288 All causes 1,201,964 All causes 1,246,324
1. Diseases of heart 685,089 Diseases of heart 336,095 Diseases of heart 348,994
2. Malignant neoplasms (cancer) 556,902 Malignant neoplasms (cancer) 287,990 Malignant neoplasms (cancer) 268,912
3. Cerebrovascular diseases 157,689 Unintentional injuries 70,532 Cerebrovascular diseases 96,263
4. Chronic lower respiratory diseases 126,382 Cerebrovascular diseases 61,426 Chronic lower respiratory diseases 65,668
5. Unintentional injuries 109,277 Chronic lower respiratory diseases 60,714 Alzheimer's disease 45,122
6. Diabetes mellitus 74,219 Diabetes mellitus 35,438 Diabetes mellitus 38,781
7. Influenza and pneumonia 65,163 Influenza and pneumonia 28,778 Unintentional injuries 38,745
8. Alzheimer's disease 63,457 Suicide 25,203 Influenza and pneumonia 36,385
9. Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis 42,453 Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis 20,481 Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis 21,972
10. Septicemia 34,069 Alzheimer's disease 18,335 Septicemia 19,082
Source: U.S. National Center for Health Statistics, Health, United States, 2005.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 13:37:32 CST
themis, thanks for the posting about Jewell....it was not a waste of space or time. People need to be reminded that not all accused are guilty and not all accusers are truthful
Sat Nov 17, 2007 13:35:16 CST
justmyopinion, the crassness and junior high mentality of that last sentence of yours speaks for itself. And...Texas Mom, there is a lot more going on healthwise with Mr. Ratcliff than diabetes and for being a diabetic you are most certainly misinformed....there are many brittle diabetics who end up in the hospital several times a year in spite of their best efforts to control. Thank God you are not one of them; it is not fun.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 13:17:20 CST
ty texasmom.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 13:08:47 CST
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Sat Nov 17, 2007 13:07:10 CST
I agree his will come on judgment day! I too feel for the victim. I hope that he can one day see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:57:57 CST
ok ppl yall really do need to grow up.he will have his one true judgement day.all this argueing reminds me of grade school
Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:29:45 CST
southtexas I could care less about what's wrong with Ratcliff.The reason I'm calling you out on the info is because you seem to know it all.Oh and as you say,it's none of my business,well who's business is it then?Do you not think that we as citizens of Victoria deserve to know what's going on with this whole circus?You may feel sorry for Ratcliff but I don't because I know the victim and could care less about what happens to Ratcliff.Yea, I agree with you on one thing,Ratcliff is sick and has been for a long time.~~~>Sick in the Head...(which head IDK maybe you could answer that one)
Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:48:34 CST
Sorry, Themis, but I believe you are the one who will be apologizing. How would you know that all of my wisdom comes from Oprah? You must spend a lot of time watching that particular show to assume such. And unless you were present during the alleged acts, you have no idea of what the truth is. You can only put forth your opinion...just like everyone else.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:41:07 CST
Well snakebite in the grass... your intolerance is obvious. This pathetic rush to judgment will be shown for the lie that it is and you will quickly crawl back under the rock from which you came. But if you want to impress me when Sheriff Ratcliff is vindicated that you turn off Oprah from which all wisdom for your types stems from and forgo the crossword to write an apology and offer forth a retraction in this forum I will eat my hat.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:30:13 CST
Diabetes is a disease and can be controlled. I have dealt with illness 2 years now and have controlled it. Yes, stress can aggregate it. But, everyone deals with stress in different ways. Hopefully this guy is not using his illness as an excuse. Wonder how many times he has been hospitalized in the past 14 months wonder if this is his first or second time? He needs to step up to the plate. Come on Rat-cliff don't use your illness as an excuse! You give those of us with the illness a bad name.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:28:19 CST
THEMIS - What, exactly, was your point in posting the article about Jewell? That people are sometimes falsely accused of crimes? Uh...I think everyone already knows that. You are obviously of the opinion that Ratcliff has been falsely accused. Even without all of the facts of the case, you are certainly entitled to your opinion...just like everyone else who feels he is guilty. Your repeat of the Jewell case was, basically, a waste of space and effort and pretty much meaningless.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:23:34 CST
Cassie...you are too clever! Why can't I ever think of those one liners?
Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:21:39 CST
I wish Mike Ratcliff good luck with his health and hope the allegations against him are not true.Lets hope that he and the people of Victoria County receive a fair trial and that justice prevails, whichever way it goes !
Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:01:27 CST
Okay southtexas, using Oh What A Circus as a parody was wrong of me. Circus gives far more dignity to current events than deserved. I should have used carnival as a metaphor.You are now free to have the last word.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:49:04 CST
Justmyopinion, I am not going to let you in on the details of Mr. Ratcliff's health problems because it is none of your business; if Mr. Ratcliff wants the public to know, then he will relate that information......and the fact that I called tstorm down about making statements that were absolute garbage has nothing to do with being for or against Mike Ratcliff.....It has to do with not making idiotic accusations and totally false statements when you have absolutely no knowledge of the truth.....surely there is no one posting here who believes that that should be done, though you wouldn't know it by reading some of the posts. As far as the poetry, I found it trite and inappropriate....and "lightening up" about anything concerning this subject somehow does not compute. This situation is not a joke....one of two things has happened, either a fine man has been unjustly accused or a child has been molested...and let's face it, in spite of the arrogance of opinion, there is no one here that actually knows what the truth is. My stand from the very beginning is "judge not lest ye be judged also." Let's wait for the evidence.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:27:01 CST
Ouch!
Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:21:50 CST
Southtexas,Calm Down! We get your point.Since you have so much knowledge about Ratcliff why don't you let us in on the info instead of knocking others comments.Once again I must say this.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if you don't like it oh well read it and move on..We do not have to agree with you for you are not the leader of this board.SO what,you are for Ratcliff and some of us are for the victim.Get over it.You can rant and rage about our negative opinions about Ratcliff all you want but remember he made his bed so let him lay in it and feel free to join him I'm sure he could use some company.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:20:16 CST
hey southtexas, it was a parody on Evita. The lyrics from Oh What A Cirucs were written by Andrew Lloyd Weber. Lighten up! [Che:]
Oh what a circus, oh what a show
Argentina has gone to town
Over the death of an actress called Eva Peron
We've all gone crazy
Mourning all day and mourning all night
Falling over ourselves to get all of the misery right
Oh what an exit, that's how to go
When they're ringing your curtain down
Demand to be buried like Eva Peron
It's quite a sunset
And good for the country in a roundabout way
We've made the front page of all the world's papers today
Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:07:05 CST
Well, I didn't feel to sorry for him before, and I damn sure ain't going to start now. The last thing I want to read about is some (alleged) sex offenders health problems. I would rather see Chupacabra headlines!!!If he is that sickly, it's good that he resigned. Hopefully we aren't footing some outrageous medical bills for an (alleged) sex offender any longer.
If he's not guilty, why is his camp so quiet???
Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:06:20 CST
"The poor guy"...lol...Well I hope he gets out before Tuesday because if not he may get a failure to appear charge...Then again,I think not...Them dang guilty panic attacks will do it to you every time...
If he would just face the truth and deal with it his stress level may come down just a tini wienie bit...
I mean gosh he's out on a PR Bond and is gonna have a wonderful Thanksgiving with his loved ones,what more could one ask for...
Sat Nov 17, 2007 09:57:59 CST
truth2power....I hate to give you the bad news, but your words certainly DO NOT "wax poetic". Your poetry is horrible. Don't quit your day job!
Sat Nov 17, 2007 09:54:16 CST
Richard Jewell, the security guard wrongly suspected and later cleared of setting off a deadly bomb at Atlanta, Georgia's Centennial Olympic Park during the 1996 Olympics, died Wednesday morning, his attorney, Lin Wood, told CNN. Richard Jewell, who was wrongly suspected of setting off a bomb during the 1996 Olympics, has died.
1 of 2 Jewell, 44, died of natural causes at his home in Woodbury, Georgia, according to Meriwether County Coroner Johnny Worley.
Jewell had been suffering from diabetes and kidney failure since February, Worley said.
Worley is working with the Georgia Bureau of Investigation on the autopsy, which should be completed Thursday afternoon. No foul play is suspected, he said. Watch friends remember Jewell as dedicated »
After 12 weeks of scrutiny following the bombing, Jewell was cleared by the FBI and U.S. Attorney Kent Alexander in an unprecedented government acknowledgment of wrongful accusation.
"I am not the Olympic Park bomber," Jewell told reporters after being cleared. "I am a man who has lived 88 days afraid of being arrested for a crime I did not commit."
The FBI, Jewell said, trampled on his rights "in its rush to show the world it could get its man," while the news media "cared nothing about my feelings as a human being" in its rush to get a story on the bombing.
Jewell was working as a private security guard in Centennial Olympic Park about 1 a.m. on July 27 when he noticed a suspicious unidentified package and began moving people away from it. The package turned out to contain a bomb, which eventually killed one person and wounded more than 100.
Initially hailed a hero for moving people away, he was later cast in a different light when the FBI began investigating whether he had set off the bomb to give himself an opportunity to be a hero.
For weeks, reporters and camera crews camped outside Jewell's Atlanta apartment, capturing every move that he -- and the FBI -- made.
He later sued the FBI and several media organizations. CNN and NBC were among the organizations that settled with him.
In April, 2005, Eric Robert Rudolph pleaded guilty to the bombing. Rudolph was captured in Murphy, North Carolina, in May 2003 after one of the largest manhunts in U.S. history.
Rudolph also pleaded guilty to the 1998 bombing of a family planning clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, that killed a police officer and two 1997 bombings at an abortion clinic and a gay nightclub in Georgia.
He is serving four consecutive life sentences plus 120 years for the convictions.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 09:54:16 CST
tstorm5....you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Mike Ratcliff has had severe health problems for quite some time and they started while he was in office. And, for those mean spirited people who will make idiotic accusations and conjectures....none of his health problems are related to mental stability or sexual activity. They are severe chronic problems which he has been coping with well before any accusations were made and which he fought every day during the last months he was in office. You are arrogant and presumptious to make statements about something that you have no knowledge of.
Sat Nov 17, 2007 09:51:31 CST
Reading many of the posts commenting on this scandal makes me think of Alice In Wonderland. "Curiouser and curiouser! Cried Alice...Oh, dear! What nonsense I'm talking!". Oh what a circus, oh what a show
Victoria has gone to town
Over this scandal of a sheriff who was the patron
We've all gone crazy
Gossip all day and gossip all night
Falling over ourselves to get all of the blame right
Oh what and exit, that's how to go
When they're ringing your curtain down
Demand to be crucified like this former patron
It's quite a sunset
And good for the county in a roundabout way
We've made the front page of all the state's papers today
Sat Nov 17, 2007 07:43:12 CST
I have not kept up on this too closely.........but was not Finley (his atty.) in public office when Ratcliff was in office ALSO was not Eaves the DA at the time.So these 2 guys have hidden secrets/knowledge of some dealings. And I bet O'connor is somewhere by looking through the glass. Tyler seems to be "following" the law and wants convictions and not out of court settlements. That is where all the problems are started.....Hell, even the Chupacabra knew to stay away from Victoria and go to Dewitt County!!!!!!!! :-p
Sat Nov 17, 2007 06:33:49 CST
Hmmm, Ratcliff was in perfect health, while he (allegedly) abused the powers of his office. Once caught, he has to go to the hospital for all these ailments. Looks like an obvious attempt to locate some sympathy for himself. I also suspect that his lawyer and him discussed possible options for fan support and getting sick was a good one.
I would think Ratcliffs time would be better spent trying to locate an alibi for the time of this crime.
If this does go to trial, and the evidence clearly points to guilty, or he plaeds guilty, I don't want anyone whining about going easy on this guy. He deserves any "Mental Anguish" he goes through.
He's gonna try to wiggle his way out of a lot of this mess and this is just another tactic.
Do ya think the victim may have had a little Mental Anguish?????